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December 12, 2005

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Marla

Hi Lori, I like your new digs! :)

I was taken with Williams' plight at first but then I read that his reformation had come through Islam, and that saddened me. I'm sure he was a changed man and did a lot of good but from his website and interviews it seemed like he had that whole "black power" thing going on. Not to mention that he never admitted to his crimes. Usually I'm the first to believe that someone really could be innocent (and I'm also not in favor of the death penalty) but in this case, I just didn't get the sense that he was truly innocent, so it was troubling that he didn't repent. I suppose seeing the gruesome pictures of the victims didn't help either.

I can't imagine living in Compton--you are an even more courageous woman than I thought! I have a lot of empathy for kids who grow up in that kind of environment. One of my favorite books was The Cross and The Switchblade.

Lori F

I was also saddened by that same thing, Marla. Just to clarify, we served,first on staff and later as just members, at a church in Compton and lived in Lakewood, about 10 miles from Compton. (Lakewood is a racially mixed, middle-class city.)

Mir

I am glad that the long delays involved in executing murderes has allowed him to reconsider his past. I think repentance is always good, even if it's not the "saving" repentance. Prison can make some people re-evaluate, and that's good, especially given how ugly prison is. Some good coming out of it has to be praised.

But Tookie earned his sentence. I do not mourn his death. What I mourn is the choices he made that led to the death of others and to himself. I would have preferred he had never caused harm. But he did and justice is served by his execution. Mercy was served by giving him time to repent, reform, and do some good to atone for his evils.

I grew up in gang-infested South Bronx in the sixties and seventies. I know what it's like to worry when a gang guy takes a shine to you--how do you say no and not incur harm? I know what it's like to be beaten up just for wearing the wrong color in a place with no crips and bloods, but with gangs with other, older names.

I grew up in the same streets as those who chose a dark path. I chose a better path. I had parents to teach me right and wrong and love me. But there were other kids who had difficult home lives who also chose NOT to cause harm with knives or guns or fists.

Ultimately, we do make choices, for good or ill. And while I sympathize with poverty (which I knew) and ghettos (where I lived once) and worrying about walking safely (which I did), and the pressure to belong...we are each still responsible for saying no to evil and yes to civic duty and the voice of God.

Mir
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Lori

I tried to make clear from my post, perhaps not successfully, that I am not going to weigh in on the guilt or innocence issue. I am simply trying to express my feelings about a city and people that I love, who live with a legacy of violence, which Tookie Williams certainly helped create.

In my saying that he appeared to try to atone, I am not saying he should have been allowed to live. In all honestly, I am divided about the death penalty & have never been able to say I felt comfortable with either viewpoint.

Mir, thank you for coming by and expressing your viewpoint. I absolutely agree with you that "we are each still responsible for saying no to evil and yes to civic duty and the voice of God." Wonderfully put.

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